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reepblue
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doomsday192 wrote:
try putting an info_node in the same area as the aperture_ai actor


..Nope, message still pops up.. I'll try putting one there and one in the map. I edit this post if it works or not.

EDIT: Nope.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should only have to build the node graph once, and not build it at all if there aren't any nodes to begin with... Does this still happen after you run the map once? (ie, second, third, hundreth time, does it still come up?)

ALSO! -StaticPropPolys is not a console command. It's a compile command. There should be a box at the bottom of the compile options window for advanced/additional parameters. You need to type it there, WITH the hyphon. I still would like to know just what it does, other than use the polys of a static model for shadows instead of the collision model.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you are doing your final compile in expert mode (HDR Full compile -final (slow!)) add -StaticPropPolys to the $light_exe command parameters.

It will cause shadow tests to be performed at polygon precision rather than using the default collision models.

In the specific case of the elevators, the light strips in the outer walls are inside the collision model causing no light to be cast around the elevator until that parameter is added.

I am not sure if there are other parameters used in Portal, but -StaticPropPolys certainly is.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dvlstx wrote:
It should only have to build the node graph once, and not build it at all if there aren't any nodes to begin with... Does this still happen after you run the map once? (ie, second, third, hundreth time, does it still come up?)


Yep, it does. I will update the WIP version as it is and see if other people still gets it. Besides, everyone got the A.I disabled message but me.

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ALSO! -StaticPropPolys is not a console command. It's a compile command. There should be a box at the bottom of the compile options window for advanced/additional parameters. You need to type it there, WITH the hyphon. I still would like to know just what it does, other than use the polys of a static model for shadows instead of the collision model.


Thank you for telling me where to put that. Smile

I'm going to put a video up on Test Chamber 3 soon.

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When you are doing your final compile in expert mode (HDR Full compile -final (slow!)) add -StaticPropPolys to the $light_exe command parameters.


I'll try that. So far it looks confusing, but I figure it out.

EDIT: Running it in expert mode fixed my lighting, and got rid of the "Node" message. Let me run this in 02 and I might update the file later today.

EDIT 2:Nevermind the message came back and my maps were getting darker and darker. and messing with my cubemaps.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reepblue wrote:
Besides, everyone got the A.I disabled message but me.


Maybe you have to include the .ain file?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

taco wrote:
When you are doing your final compile in expert mode (HDR Full compile -final (slow!)) add -StaticPropPolys to the $light_exe command parameters.

I believe that in EP2, they have -StaticPropPolys put into the default compile setting... (I read this somewhere, not yet confirmed it though.)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a quick play through (and not because i was in a hurry Wink ) and i found one or 2 problems with the map.

The first problem may just be the fact its in WIP:



(As you can see, it goes into a void of grey, which ain't that pheasable)

Secondly, i was able to get on top of the button do-hickey and just put the cube inside:



I also managed to get a cool picture of me standing upside down using the portals.



But apart from those 2 hiccups it was pretty fun to play. (Though i'm not sure how a cube can activate a laser pad)

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(As you can see, it goes into a void of grey, which ain't that pheasable)


It is a WIP. I'll fix it by the final version.

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Secondly, i was able to get on top of the button do-hickey and just put the cube inside:


I knew you could do that. It is another way to solve it. Wink

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I also managed to get a cool picture of me standing upside down using the portals.


weeeee..... *static* The update will fix that.

Also, here is a preview of Chamber 3

I just got to tweak my elevator and the load point and it will be fixed!

EDIT: UPDATED IT

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

appunxintator wrote:
Maybe you have to include the .ain file?


i read somewhere, that the ain needs to be newer than the files or something, it says to set the clock forward like a year make the ain, then switch clock back, ill try to find the passage.

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Warning: If you add an .ain to your .bsp, you'll run into the issue where the .bsp is always now 'later' than your .ain file, and will recompile the node graph first time you run the map from the package. The way around this is to make sure your .ain file is 'newer' than the .bsp you're adding it to. You do this by moving your clock forward (go a year ahead since every time the .bsp is unpacked it creates a new timestamp) before you generate the .ain file, then move the clock back before adding it to your .bsp.


Source: http://wiki.thinkingwithportals.com/wiki/Publishing_A_Map

idk if that helps anything
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Warning: If you add an .ain to your .bsp, you'll run into the issue where the .bsp is always now 'later' than your .ain file, and will recompile the node graph first time you run the map from the package. The way around this is to make sure your .ain file is 'newer' than the .bsp you're adding it to. You do this by moving your clock forward (go a year ahead since every time the .bsp is unpacked it creates a new timestamp) before you generate the .ain file, then move the clock back before adding it to your .bsp.


That flew WAY over my head. I guess I'll try it... Next update. -_-'

I'm working on the level change from 02-03. Almost got it done.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cool levels Very Happy

bit easy thought i thought...

i found a few things:

you can stand on top of the barrier thing that you can't go through but the cube can...

there are some textures missing on the fan in room 00

you can make a portal almost covering all of the thing that gives u the gun...


other than that... the levels are looking good... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated it and fixed!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkeyman wrote:

Um... Is there something wrong with your portals, sir?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ye... dunno y that one came out weird... stupid snagit....
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops sorry, should have moved this to WIP a while ago.
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