[RELEASE] Logic Portals [04].beta

[Ralen]

[Adair]

[rellikpd]

hey just played (and beat) this lp4, i had played and beat 00-03 before. but replayed them anyway. i (mostly) love your level design and look. but i DO agree that your indicator strip sucks i can never tell where its going or if i have it activated, not enough contrast and the colors are TOOO bright to notice any contrast.

but. lp4. i do NOT consider myself a ninja portal'er but i had no difficulty understanding lp4, i beat this without reading any of the spoilers or info in this forum, all the puzzles gave you a clear cut idea where and how you would end up flinging (i mean the damn lasers pointed to RIGHT where you would go if you follow their trajectory) but thats not to say i solved any puzzle the first time, heavens no lol it took a few times. but once i figured out what was going on i had FUN in the map. ironically enough i hate the first few "angle fling" tutorial sections and LOVED the final angle-fling section. but i understand the need for them, to teach us how angled flings move

all in all you have an amazing mapping skill, and the new idea with the float-buttons, and angle-fling promise for some crazy mapping in the future, just um. fix that damn indicator strip ;-P

[Hurricaaane]

Hi,
I moslty have read all the comments but I really can't answer all of them. I have a huge examen to pass in three months and in order to pass it I need to work hard these times. I won't probably update the map for the next three months and a half or so.

I took a risk with the design, and this is one of the reasons this is a beta. I couldn't know if the hot atmosphere compared to the cold atmosphere of Portal would please the player. Also, I'm teaching a completely new thing to the player and I don't damn know how to transcript that into a small floor sign, seriously. If I got any other idea I will update it, but the most important hint is the laser as in the first rooms the laser point to the exit, so the player mostly do link laser with fling direction and exit. This is what I intended. And Yes, i heard that I should add a extra room where the player is forced to place the blue portal on the floor in the reverse direction so the player can understand the need to position rightly the blue portal so that the laser point towards the exit.

Ok, don't expect updates but I can still answer a global question.

[Ricotez]

Well, I can tell you one thing:
I like the "hot" atmosphere in your maps far more than the cold atmosphere of the original maps. It gives you a far more comfortable feeling (should also be nicer for Chell, seen the fact she's got to walk on bare feet).

As far as the angular fling, maybe you only need a few more hints on where to place the blue portal, for example the red cross decal somewhere on the wall in the first chamber.

Oh, and btw, I'm using a concept similiar to the flash chambers in my Airboat portal map (the airboat won't fit in the elevator ). Do you mind that? I will of course give all credit to you, and the chambers will have a slightly different look. If you don't want it, I'll try something else (maybe extra big freight elevators? Or no elevators at all...).

[iamafractal]

we stand on the shoulders of giants ricotez.

if you want to expand on an idea, why not?

some mappers have their sources available so you can copy-paste things.

i'm sure that sharing results in better end results anyway. that's what a mapping community is about, imho.

[Ricotez]

Hmm, the only thing I don't like is that you have to turn the airboat around in the chamber which is quite difficult, plus you don't see the chambers special effect (door closes, BEEEOOOMMM-sound, door opens, another area, in 2 seconds). Like I said I will think something out...


Flash Corridors?

[Adair]

[Ricotez]

You're right, I will continue this in my own topic (already got one about the airboat).

[DeviMon]

I liked the map it took me about 20 minutes to understand the first room but the second was easy when you knew how to do the angular fling it i did the map in about 58 mins and after i did it i did it again it only 15 mins i am trying to do a speedrun to this map ^^ I think everything was good except floor signs (i didn't understand them o_O) nice map

[NykO18]

[iamafractal]

when i first saw the map, it was just the first room, and an earlier version of the conveyor belt room.

there was no blue laser, and you had to put all your own portals in. it was not nearly as obvious.

when i first saw it, i asked... this is solvable? and hurricane said, yep. so i spent a good 5 mins at least, and figured it out.

the larger room had no conveyor, and there was no laser, and no hints as to where any portals ought to go.

i don't remember if it took me very long.. but i think the laser is a huge clue that makes it so much easier.

[Ralen]

I'd reiterate that once I figured out the first puzzle, the rest fell in line pretty quickly. The problem is figuring out what to do in the first room though, and to me the laser confused me more than anything else (until I knew what it was for, then it became helpful). Until it was explained to me, I just kept wondering why the turret wasn't shooting rockets at me.

I think the confusion in the first room could be alleviated with some more explanatory floor tiles.
I whipped this up in photoshop, and I think it's a bit more explanatory than the existing floor signage.

[Hyakkidouran]

With a "follow the laser" sign with those two, confusion should be avoided most of the time.

[iamafractal]