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Nameless
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| Quote: | | 'Most mind meltingly puzzling' |
| Quote: | | "Most Open-Ended Map" |
both get my vote, I was thinking of a map that would have multiple paths but still required you to use the whole thing...
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Hyakkidouran
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I really like the "final boss" subject.
It feels very different and "new".
It is probably harder to do than most subjects, since you have to know how to script a little, but it would be a nice subject for when we do the "win a video card" contest : the prize will be worth the effort!
The problem is we may have very few participants... So it is worth it? I let you, msleeper, be the judge for this.
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youme
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| Hyakkidouran wrote: | | The problem is we may have very few participants... So it is worth it? I let you, msleeper, be the judge for this. |
Well thats really the point of this thread, discuss and improve ideas, if barely anyone is up to a boss type level then we shouldn't do it. But I think with some careful though a good boss type battle can be done without any coding or new models..
Its definatly posible to create a map that will feel like a final boss battle without an actual sentient boss character afterall look at the actual portal boss, there is nothing that couldn't be done simply by level design stuff.
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Kingpin
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I was thinking maybe along the lines of the 'outside environment' so that it gives the player a whole new environment to play in. Also new techniques I was thinking like different sorts of puzzles, innovative shit, all that juice.
For me? I'm onto the next shit. Get there. |
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BlueZero4
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| Anyone up for making a puzzle in which you start without the portal gun, and get it as you complete the puzzle? |
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youme
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| BlueZero4 wrote: | | Anyone up for making a puzzle in which you start without the portal gun, and get it as you complete the puzzle? |
There have been a few of those already, one of the two top maps in the last contest was like this (was both? I can't remember) And TS13 will definatly be like this
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MrThompson
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'Don't touch the ground course'
'Changing environment'
'Collect stuff to build a machine to breakout of the Aperture Labs'
'No jumping area'
All I can think of atm. |
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Nameless
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| Quote: | 'Collect stuff to build a machine to breakout of the Aperture Labs'
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I like that you could make it some sort of machine built into the map, and you sort of "plug it in"
Here is a few ideas I just came up with, I put a * beside the ones I like best.
*-best logic puzzles (thinking puzzles, not flinging puzzles), using things like the 3x3 'Lights Out' game in the map.
-best 'escape' map, where you escape aperture alive
*-gauntlet run style map, where you avoid death traps (semi-secret doors, crushing pistons, having to time your jumps/runs correctly)
*-best use of NPCs (Ex. enrichment centre before neurotoxin toxin)
-use of physics puzzles (not involving the player them selves). Too many maps involve manipulating physics on the player and few use portals to help run a machine (I remember one map where you controlled the balls in a machine puzzle, can't find the map  )
-use of sound as a puzzle element, like matching cubes that make certain noises with slots making the same noise (you can use a lot of the 'raw' sounds at different pitches for variety)
-map with the most scenic views of areas not directly part of a puzzle, you could have a button trigger something but not allow the player to make portals or walking around in the area, like walking through glass bridges overlooking an abyss of machines, a good way to show lighting and layout skills
*-maze style map, it would be easy for everyone to participate, but it would be a fun challenge to make a maze, that didn't frustrate or confuse everyone (a decent number of clues, in the forms of puzzles, could help)
-best/complexity/amount of puzzles in a single room, would be interesting to see how many puzzles (of decent quality) people could neatly fit into a single room (maybe we define a room size in the rules)
are we going to vote on the next contest, or is it going to be up to an elite few?
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taco
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| Of all the ideas so far, I'm really liking the ones that focus on making a unique type of chamber - not just on visual style, but on the execution of the chamber as a whole. |
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Kingpin
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[quote="Nameless"] | Quote: | | (I remember one map where you controlled the balls in a machine puzzle, can't find the map ) |
I think you are thinking of Alpha chamber 1. The one where you get the portal gun at the end of the map.
Also for ideas, I was thinking maybe different looking scenery, (ie: outdoors areas). |
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xitooner
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| Nameless wrote: |
| Quote: | | 'Most mind meltingly puzzling' |
| Quote: | | "Most Open-Ended Map" |
both get my vote, I was thinking of a map that would have multiple paths but still required you to use the whole thing...
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Not minding either, but the level of planning/complexity required to pull off the open-ended one well may seriously limit the number of entries. Which may be fine I guess. . .but if making sure there is a lot of entries and participation is a factor for this one-month-long contest, we need to keep it in mind.
I vote for "the most mind meltingly puzzly" concept. A set of maps that concentrated on needing brains and not on finger-twitching skills or "techniques" would be very refreshing to me. . . . |
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Donat
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'Them'
Test chambers deisnged to prevent or gather data on what is going on, Out side. |
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youme
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| xitooner wrote: | | I vote for "the most mind meltingly puzzly" concept. A set of maps that concentrated on needing brains and not on finger-twitching skills or "techniques" would be very refreshing to me. . . . |
Word.
Although I think my favurite idea was 'Most visually stunning' but thats because I love those vistas throughout the HL2 games.
Its nearly march, when will we get to know what the competition is? (sadly shan't be entering, am already making a TF2 map for a competition ending in april)
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Nameless
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| Donat wrote: | 'Them'
Test chambers deisnged to prevent or gather data on what is going on, Out side. |
I like this idea, and it would give the maps a mysterous feel, but I'm not sure how you could do it with out custom media |
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Donat
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| You can use the NPCs from HL2. I have one i'm working on that uses some, i guess i could post pictures some where, but i can't post in the WIP and currently whats missing in it is auto_logic, math_counters, logic timers ect.... So it only spawns on button command and not automatically. |
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