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dvlstx
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I"m using this in my map! It's tedious, but adds a very authentic feel to the maps.
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reepblue
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| dvlstx wrote: | | I"m using this in my map! It's tedious, but adds a very authentic feel to the maps. |
Might as well since I plain to use more of those signs without following them.
14 people have downloaded the maps, And I only got two people with feedback. :/
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taco
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Just did a quick playthough while taking notes (some of these things have been mentioned before, some haven't):
• I understand that this is a WIP, but your map distribution is HORRIBLE. If you release your projects set up properly from the start, (ie. bonus map script) every time you update the maps, the new version would just over-write the old ones. Distributing your map like this is a pain - it almost detoured me from playing it.
• When you start you map, you get "node graph out of date" - another casualty of sloppy distribution.
• You have light glows on texture lights. They look ugly/distracting.
• The chambers seem to have too much light for the number of light sources: you should add strip lighting.
• No cubemaps.
• Indicator strip corner overlays are used incorrectly in many places. They should ONLY be used at corners (hence the name).
• Stairs are floating - they need pistons.
• Stair pit needs pipes and wires.
• There is a missing floor decal (as pointed out before - yes, i have the materials in the right place).
• Chamber 01 uses a physics exploit as a puzzle solving method. It is sloppy/inconsistent.
• In Chamber 01 there is a large bit of recessed wall lighting that the player can't jump into - it seems to be covered with glass? This is bad. If you don't want the player jumping there, make the recessed area smaller instead.
• You need to compile with the parameter '-StaticPropPolys' to improve shadows, esp. around the elevators.
• Chamber 02: having the words "A.I. Disabled" on the screen needs to be fixed.
• Chamber 02: putting the box in the catcher should open a door, not disable the button and create a new orange portal. The current method seems broken/lame.
• Needs GLaDOS.
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reepblue
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| taco wrote: | Just did a quick playthough while taking notes (some of these things have been mentioned before, some haven't):
• I understand that this is a WIP, but your map distribution is HORRIBLE. If you release your projects set up properly from the start, (ie. bonus map script) every time you update the maps, the new version would just over-write the old ones. Distributing your map like this is a pain - it almost detoured me from playing it. |
This is why I released it has a WIP. To learn to fix this and future maps.
| Quote: | | • When you start you map, you get "node graph out of date" - another casualty of sloppy distribution. |
Yeah, how do you remove it then? I thought it was normal since I played maps that had it too.
| Quote: | | • You have light glows on texture lights. They look ugly/distracting. |
Ok, I liked them, but then again they are everywhere in 01. I'll remove plenty!
| Quote: | | • The chambers seem to have too much light for the number of light sources: you should add strip lighting. |
Yes, I agree. I was having trouble with my strips and at the end they looked sloppy (i.e light was coming from the top then the wall.)
Hold the phone. I did put cubemaps in my maps, I said in the intro that they are properly placed as what the Valve wiki said to put them (16 units from each brush.)
| Quote: | | • Indicator strip corner overlays are used incorrectly in many places. They should ONLY be used at corners (hence the name). |
Easy fix...
| Quote: | • Stairs are floating - they need pistons.
• Stair pit needs pipes and wires. |
As for this WIP, I realy did not pay much attention to extras. I will put them in. Plus 00-01 was my first maps (not ever made) and I was not really sure where to take it.
| Quote: | | • There is a missing floor decal (as pointed out before - yes, i have the materials in the right place). |
In my portal folder, I have my files in ..\portal\portal\materials\reep. Try putting into \portal\portal\materials\reep_materials. dumb the file in to the material folder. EDIT: Try this. rename the folder 'reep' and put it in .. \portal\portal\materials.
| Quote: | | • Chamber 01 uses a physics exploit as a puzzle solving method. It is sloppy/inconsistent. |
Well.. Now I don't have to worry on my texture...
| Quote: | | • In Chamber 01 there is a large bit of recessed wall lighting that the player can't jump into - it seems to be covered with glass? This is bad. If you don't want the player jumping there, make the recessed area smaller instead. |
Where is that?
| Quote: | | • You need to compile with the parameter '-StaticPropPolys' to improve shadows, esp. around the elevators. |
I'll give it a go.
| Quote: | | • Chamber 02: having the words "A.I. Disabled" on the screen needs to be fixed. |
Everyone is having that problem but me. It is useless anyhow. I'll delete the actor and that should fix it.
| Quote: | | • Chamber 02: putting the box in the catcher should open a door, not disable the button and create a new orange portal. The current method seems broken/lame. |
I'll put a door on the water side of the exit room. Besides, it can cause bugs.
I read all over here that people is getting sick of overused GLaDOS lines and you want it in?  Thats funny to me.
It does very much. Thank you.
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Mek
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| reepblue wrote: | • No cubemaps.
Hold the phone. I did put cubemaps in my maps, I said in the intro that they are properly placed as what the Valve wiki said to put them (16 units from each brush.) |
Did you build the cubemaps in the game? Run the "buildcubemaps" command in the console in both HDR and LDR mode (switch using mat_hdr_level 0 or 2)
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reepblue
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| Mek wrote: | | Did you build the cubemaps in the game? Run the "buildcubemaps" command in the console in both HDR and LDR mode (switch using mat_hdr_level 0 or 2) |
Thats what I did wrong. I realized that buildcubemaps restarts it. I thought it justs makes temp. cubemaps. I redid 02 (by making a door and remade the A.I hopefully fixing the disabled problem.) and on my last compile I put in buildcubemaps in game and the cubemaps show every start up. I'll will update the WIP file soon.
In 01, I gave you a box and got rid of that jumping puzzle. Still the same layout but a different what to solve it.
BTW: Did anyone noticed that "glass" thing taco was talking about? I can't fix it if I can't see it.
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taco
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I checked again, and looks like it isn't glass after all, maybe it's a player clip? The hole is large enough to crouch-jump into, but you can't...
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reepblue
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Yep, it is a Player clip texture. All, the windows have it.
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taco
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| reepblue wrote: | | Yep, it is a Player clip texture. All, the windows have it. |
Why? They shouldn't. |
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reepblue
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| taco wrote: | | Why? They shouldn't. |
Well, why would you want to go in there in the first place. 
On a side Note, Chamber 02 is complete. I added a door, reset the ev_ cubemaps, added strips, and fix that button problem.
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dvlstx
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| taco wrote: | | • You need to compile with the parameter '-StaticPropPolys' to improve shadows, esp. around the elevators. |
I have a question. How will this help fix the shadows around the elevators? Is it because the collision model of the cap goes into the floor brush and messes the standard compile up? (I know very little about this parameter, btw. If you could explain it in more detail then the valve developer wiki does, that'd be great.) Since this compiles shadows by polys instead of collision models, will this have an 'extreme', or 'mild' impact on compile times?
Just being curious, it's what I do best.
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| dvlstx wrote: | I have a question. How will this help fix the shadows around the elevators? Is it because the collision model of the cap goes into the floor brush and messes the standard compile up? (I know very little about this parameter, btw. If you could explain it in more detail then the valve developer wiki does, that'd be great.) Since this compiles shadows by polys instead of collision models, will this have an 'extreme', or 'mild' impact on compile times?
Just being curious, it's what I do best.
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Yes, I'm trying to figure out that too. I though it was a console command but it checked it as a unknown command. Also, how do I get rid/fix the "Node graph out of date ... Rebuilding" message? I asked this question before and no one told me. I googled it and wikied it and found nothing.
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Doomsday192
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reepblue
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| Doomsday192 wrote: | | it means you need the .ain file included in the download |
Thank you, but how come in my files, I get that message? I have .ain files in my graph files.
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Doomsday192
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try putting an info_node in the same area as the aperture_ai actor
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