Speculation with portals

espen180 · Loves Cake Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 370

Let's discuss portals and what they will do in specific scenarios.

For example, let's say that portals withstand motion (This in actually self-explanatory if you take molecular vibration into account), let's also say you can place portals on organic material (The definition of "organic" is that the molecular formula includes carbon, with the exception of carbonate and carbon gas) If you were to place portal A on a wall in front of you, and portal B on your chest. If you now were to run straight into portal A facing forwards, what would happen?

Picture of scenario:

Korjagun · Test Supervisor Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 120

You are also assuming that you can somehow create portals of different size, yet have them operate normally, which means that the linearity of space becomes screwed around the portal rims.

youme · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject:

a portal inside a portal would create a space and time paradox and the whole of existance would go 'pop'

Duffedwaffe · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject:

Yes, a portal inside a portal would make everything die instantly.

Let's tihnk of the universe as a giant piece of paper.

When you place a portal link, you're essentially folding this piece of paper to connect with the other point.

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______
______\

So, if you were to place a portal inside a portal, you'd essentially be doing this:

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The paper would fold around itself so much that it becomes an invisible blip of existance.

youme · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:28 pm Post subject:

Say NO to ASCII drawings!

Say YES to MS paint (or any other program that is more powerful such as photoshop for the gimp for those who are poor)

chris_24 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject:

espen180 · Loves Cake Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 370

Does anyone else have any scenarios?

youme · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject:

Madman · Test Participant Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 25

I have long been thinking of one...
If there are 2 blue portals (maybe due to some mailfunction in the device)
that lead to the same one red portal, what would happen if somebody\something enters the red one? Duplication?

Crooked Paul · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject:

Rivid31 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:14 pm Post subject:

Crooked Paul · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:26 pm Post subject:

Ah, so I did. Sorry.

Well, I still disagree that a portal-in-portal would eradicate the universe. My argument above about the paper analogy -- that portals observably do not deform space -- still stands.

Portal behavior seems to be strictly local: each point on one portal maps directly to a point on the other. No surrounding space/objects are affected. (With the one exception of the cameras falling... but note that the cameras aren't teleported or "pulled into" the portal. They behave exactly as they would if they were held in the same place after the portals were placed and then released. But I digress...)

Since portal behavior is strictly local, I contend that if you could move one portal into another, the effect would become infinitely local, and probably both portals (and whatever unfortunate object/organism held the movable portal) would collapse into an infinitely small "bubble universe" permanently disconnected from the rest of reality.

Lorithad · Loves Cake Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 250

Ok, For the sake of my sanity, everyone here needs to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU1fixMAObI

It explains dimension in terms most people can comprehend.
It's about 12 minutes long, but easly worth the watch.

That being said, If you were to somehow place a portal on your own chest(which I don't think is possible, as we know portals can't be supported on moving surfaces), then run into another portal, you would likely die.
Thus far we know that a portal cannot travel through another portal. So when you dive into the wall, your head would come out your chest. At the point when the chest portal comes in contact with the wall portal, it would disengage. Then you're either thrown back out the one you came in (probably would be the result of Apature science employees knowing that some jackass would try this), or you would be cut in half. Personally, I'm opting for the cutting in half option, as it thins the gene pool of somebody who would take that risk.

Either way, this senario is flawed in oh so many ways. Portals of different size can't exist. If they did, you'd have to either deal with expansion & miniturization, or loss of matter. Example: Put a large wooden door through a large portal, only to have a normal sized portal shaped door come out on the other side.

msleeper · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:42 pm Post subject:

Rivid31 · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject:

you wouldnt actually need different sized portals... if the person was big enough. tilting a portal on its side would make it fit through the other portal just fine...

on another note, nice video on youtube Wink

and on another note, I didn't really think about what would happen.