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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rellikpd wrote:
Crap On Spore


Have you actually played it? Even my brother loved it, and that whilst it's not even his 'kind' of game. True, the first four phases lack depth, but they're still fun to play and the space phase is just totally awesome. I managed to terraform a planet from T0 (unhospitable) to T2 (quite hospitable), and I'm at war with pigs.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spore has been one of the biggest letdowns since The Matrix Reloaded.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It needs a Securom crack.

Now.

Or else I'm gonna shove it right back down Wal-Mart's throat and demand a refund, because that was not mentioned on the box and I did not pay for that shit.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother loves it. . And he has been really hypocritical on games these days.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duffedwaffe wrote:
It needs a Securom crack.

Now.

Or else I'm gonna shove it right back down Wal-Mart's throat and demand a refund, because that was not mentioned on the box and I did not pay for that shit.


Make your own, you just need to trick the game into thinking you have it running Very Happy.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PortalFan77 wrote:
Make your own, you just need to trick the game into thinking you have it running Very Happy.


If you would be so kind as to run me through it via PM I'd be really grateful. I'm not into the whole cracking and bootlegging thing, I just write programs.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Five casual games, duct-taped together.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

msleeper wrote:
Five casual games, duct-taped together.


Think what you want of it, A lot of people can look past "oh this and this is gay" and see the game as a whole, and it is truly awesome. Of course, EA skullfucked it so hard with the DRM/SecuRom it makes me feel dirty just having it installed.

If I could have those little bits removed, It's be 100% satisfied with my purchase. Even if that means going behind EA/Maxis's back to get a crack for it.

If they feel it's fair to sell me a $50 dollar rental game, then I feel it's fair to kick them in the jaw and 1)crack the game 2)get a pirated version 3)Return it to the store where I bought it under the fact that DRM/SecuRom are not even mentioned on the box and thus there is no way for me to actually KNOW of it, or 4) both 2 and 3.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duff, it's people like you who've made Spore's Amazon rating one star.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080908-gamers-fight-back-against-lackluster-spore-gameplay-bad-drm.html

It's just amazing that they keep trying despite DRM being proven again and again not be ineffective.

What's it that they say about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Duff, it's people like you who've made Spore's Amazon rating one star.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080908-gamers-fight-back-against-lackluster-spore-gameplay-bad-drm.html

It's just amazing that they keep trying despite DRM being proven again and again not be ineffective.

What's it that they say about insanity? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?


I don't give two shits if it's effective or not, it's intrusive on a product I PURCHASED, not "rented for 3 installs", and it's complete bullshit. That, and SecuRom has a reputation for installing rootkits. I already found 2.

The game in itself is great, AWESOME, but shame on Maxis for letting the EA hate machine run the operation.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with you on SecuROM being dumb, but a few points:

1) When you sound like you're foaming at the mouth (which is how the above post "sounds" to me) you're less likely to be taken seriously.

2) SecuROM isn't a rootkit.

Ars Technica wrote:
The fiasco stemmed ultimately from a misunderstanding of what Microsoft's RootkitRevealer is. In short, it is a diagnostic tool that offers avenues for further investigation. Microsoft puts it this way: RootkitRevealer "lists Registry and file system API discrepancies that may indicate the presence of a user-mode or kernel-mode rootkit" (emphasis added).

It does not scan a system and then say "Hey, you've got a rootkit!" Rather, it looks for a number of signs that indicate that a service or application is attempting to hide itself and manipulate the system, or one of several other potential signs of a problem.


I think the guys who are bombing the Amazon page are going right for the mean bean machine on this one. People raised hell over Bioshock and then everything quieted down when some concessions were made. But if there's ever a time to stand against this, I guess it's now.

Not that it really bothers me. If I ever get locked out of my copy of Bioshock, I'll just torrent it. And I don't see that changing any time soon.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not that it really bothers me. If I ever get locked out of my copy of Bioshock, I'll just torrent it. And I don't see that changing any time soon.


That doesn't make it okay. In fact, that just makes it hilariously ironic. They alienate the consumer in an attempt to slow piracy when in turn the alienated consumer just goes and pirates the software.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That doesn't make it okay. In fact, that just makes it hilariously ironic. They alienate the consumer in an attempt to slow piracy when in turn the alienated consumer just goes and pirates the software.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darn, I already gone ahead and installed the game on the three computers (1 mac and 2 pc's) in our house. I guess I have to search for Spore's receipt in case one of the computers crashes...

I hate EA, now more than ever. And I hate they publish so many great games, all made by second- and third-parties, but screwing them up with their profit-menace. They are a company like all others, extremely paranoid but doing shit to prevent piracy.

I really feel sorry for Spore, since it's still a great game, even though a slight letdown. Now the casual gamers, who are not aware of all the controverse and for who the game was ment, will be spoiled by all the hardcore gamers who don't like the game and the DRM and screw up the game's public ratings.

Oh well. Doesn't this happen to a lot of games, especially the ones EA publishes? And, like mentioned before, doesn't it cool down after a short while when everyone finds out it's not all as bad as the hype suggested? I guess hardcore gamers just like to complain about new games, about casual games and about EA Games. And I'm one of them, that's why I'm complaining here.


The aforementioned is the personal opinion of the poster, and as such should not be considered as true or facts, and is subject to change and open for discussion. The poster did not ment to harm any person in particular. If you feel infringed or offended, be aware the poster did not do so deliberately.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ric, I sort of agree. Bioshock was very much thunder and lightning until they released a few measures to placate the fan base and the controversy sort of died.

But it seems the only way to make these guys pay attention is to hit them in the wallet, which is exactly what the Amazon bombing will do. And, strictly speaking, I have no problem with it as long as every reviewer purchased the game.

But when you start getting random internet assholes stuffing the review thread the same way the Paulians kept stuffing online polls for Their Man Ron, the intellectual dishonesty there begins to bother me.

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